This was surprising to learn.

Former Attorney General Bill Barr is revealing new behind-the-scenes details about a moment that stunned the nation: the death of Jeffrey Epstein while in federal custody in 2019.

In a recent interview on the popular conservative Ruthless podcast, Barr described the urgent phone call he made to Donald Trump after learning Epstein had been found dead in his jail cell.

“A Real Failure” Inside the System

Barr said he was at home when his chief of staff called with alarming news, bluntly describing the situation as a serious breakdown inside the federal prison system. Epstein, one of the most high-profile inmates in the country, was reportedly found dead from an apparent suicide.

Barr immediately began gathering what little information was available and contacted President Trump.

According to Barr, Trump was shocked and angry, demanding to know how something like this could happen under government supervision.

Federal Agencies Scramble

Barr explained that the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Justice Department’s inspector general were quickly notified. The Bureau of Prisons also launched its own investigation, though Barr acknowledged the obvious problem of agencies reviewing their own failures.

When Barr told Trump that Epstein was believed to have taken his own life, the president reacted with disbelief, echoing the frustration shared by millions of Americans.

Outrage — But No Illusions

Podcast co-host Josh Holmes suggested Trump must have been furious. Barr agreed, saying Trump openly questioned how such a catastrophic lapse could occur.

However, Barr added that by that stage of his presidency, Trump had already seen firsthand how poorly large federal bureaucracies can function — even in high-stakes situations.

Barr also pushed back on the idea that every government failure automatically points to a grand conspiracy, recalling advice from an early mentor: don’t assume malicious intent when incompetence may explain what happened.

Why So Many Americans Still Have Questions

Epstein’s death immediately triggered widespread skepticism, and for understandable reasons. Critics have pointed to missing surveillance footage, unusual guard behavior, Epstein’s pending legal battles, and independent observations surrounding the autopsy.

Many Americans also questioned whether powerful individuals might have wanted Epstein silenced before he could cooperate with authorities.

DOJ and FBI Stand by Suicide Ruling

Despite years of speculation, the United States Department of Justice and the FBI concluded after a comprehensive review that Epstein died by suicide. Officials stated there was no evidence of a secret “client list” and no additional files that could be released.

Those findings matched earlier federal investigations — conclusions often ignored or downplayed in media coverage.

Media and Political Attacks on Trump

Democrats and left-leaning media outlets have repeatedly attempted to link President Trump to Epstein, largely based on the fact that the two men once moved in similar social circles years ago.

Trump has never been accused of wrongdoing related to Epstein and has consistently denied any knowledge of Epstein’s crimes.

Barr addressed that point directly, stating that if investigators in New York or under the Biden administration had uncovered any damaging evidence involving Trump, it would have surfaced long ago.

“This Isn’t the Case They Think It Is”

Barr was blunt in his assessment.

“Let’s be serious,” he said. “This is not the case that’s going to show President Trump did anything wrong.”

As renewed attention turns to Epstein-related documents and continued media speculation, Barr’s remarks serve as a reminder: after years of investigations, leaks, and political attacks, no evidence has emerged tying Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein’s criminal behavior.